Julie Ann Salisbury, a World Wide Influencer Shares Her Journey With Dyslexia

Julie Ann is the founder of Influence Publishing and the author of Around the World in Seven Years—A Life Changing Journey. She specializes in collaborative book projects featuring 15-20 authors including 9 books in the Woman of Worth Series. Influence has published over 300 authors in the last 12 years and made most of them Amazon Best Sellers. She is the host of the podcast show “Life with Collective Purpose”. She has been the keynote at many conferences, and her 2017 TEDx titled “The Gift of Dyslexia” and has had more than 100,000 views. She is the owner of the retreat center and co-creation hub called Casa de Influencia in Puerto Vallarta. At the House of Influence the culturally rich high vibrational environment provides a creative space for content creation in the sound-proof studios, event space and boutique guest rooms. Perfect for podcast, speaking, writing and spiritual retreats up to 15 people.

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About the Host:

I am Saylor Cooper, Owner of Real Variety Radio and host of the Hope Without Sight Podcast. I am from the Houston, Texas area and am legally blind which is one of the main reasons why I am hosting this show surrounding this topic , to inspire others by letting them know that they can live their best life and reach their highest potential.

 Website: https://realvarietyradio.com/

About the Co-host:

My name is Matthew Tyler Evans and I am from the Northeast Texas area. I am blind like Saylor is and we have the same retinal condition. I decided to join Saylor‘s podcast because I have a strong interest in teaming up with him and I think together, we can inspire the world with others with disabilities.

 

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Transcript
Saylor Cooper:

Hello everybody, welcome to another episode of

Saylor Cooper:

hope without sight with your how Saylor Cooper and

Tyler Evans:

this is Tyler Evans and we're

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on episode 19 I believe on the flow of it too.

Saylor Cooper:

It was so good now just get off of massage thanks to

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wonderfulness Zeus, who gave who's been giving us all

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massages. I feel great. But now to my right. I have the owner of

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a wonderful concert. influencia thank you so much for your

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hospitality this week. She's here to share her story of

Saylor Cooper:

overcoming life's challenges. This is Julie Ann. Julie Ann how

Saylor Cooper:

you doing?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I am doing fabulous. Oh my god, I have had

Julie Ann Salisbury:

so much fun having all you guys here this week doing podcasts.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

And yeah, I've been I've been really enjoying myself having so

Julie Ann Salisbury:

much company here and getting to know everybody.

Saylor Cooper:

That's awesome. So glad that you've had a lot of

Saylor Cooper:

fun. We've had a lot of fun being a cheap place to to

Saylor Cooper:

beautiful place your staff has been incredible. Let me tell

Saylor Cooper:

you, I'll give you a good tip before I leave.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

They're going to be very happy about

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. And and as you know, as a courtesy, you

Saylor Cooper:

know what? I will want you to come down to Cancun. Stay at our

Saylor Cooper:

family place down there. Wow, that would be amazing. Yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. Because you've done so well. So yeah. So here without

Saylor Cooper:

further ado, let's get started. So this is help without sight.

Saylor Cooper:

You. I've heard you've overcome a lot of challenges in life. So

Saylor Cooper:

that's why I want to have you on here. So let's get going. So

Saylor Cooper:

yeah, that's me from beginning.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, I've had an interesting life. And

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I've had my share of obstacles that I've had to overcome. First

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of all, I guess it started when I was 17 years old, and I was

Julie Ann Salisbury:

diagnosed with scoliosis. And in England at the time, the way

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that they dealt with that is that they would break your back.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

So I was rushed into hospital. And they basically smashed every

Julie Ann Salisbury:

vertebrae of my back to then straighten it, make it as

Julie Ann Salisbury:

straight as possible. And then put a steel rod in my back, and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

then kind of put me back together and put me into full

Julie Ann Salisbury:

body cast for six months. Wow. So yeah, I went through kind of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

my, after I'd learned how to walk again, I then had, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know, two years College, either with a body cast or with various

Julie Ann Salisbury:

different types of support, before I was able to just, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know, function normally.

Saylor Cooper:

So you have a body cast back on just your leg.

Saylor Cooper:

Back. So oh my goodness,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I went from the whole body cast went from

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like, up to my shoulders right down to my hips. Wow. So it kind

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of looks a bit like a big test.

Saylor Cooper:

Wow. So what is scoliosis? Exactly?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

So it's a curvature of the spine. So as

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you grow, instead of your spine growing straight, it starts to

Julie Ann Salisbury:

grow to one side or the other side growing to the right side.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

And so if they hadn't, you know, tried to correct it. I would be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

a hunchback by now.

Saylor Cooper:

You'd be in a wheelchair. Yes. Wow. And by the

Saylor Cooper:

grace of God, you're you're walking and only you're walking

Saylor Cooper:

you're running this amazing place, which is good.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, I mean, it's I still have chronic

Julie Ann Salisbury:

pain every day, but I've just learned to live with that and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

manage it. And I feel like the more that you believe anything's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

possible than anything really is possible. And as you know, we're

Julie Ann Salisbury:

in a building with five flights of stairs. I'm pretty fit now.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. I think we all we all have to be on this

Saylor Cooper:

trip. And you know, people have had called me a champ because me

Saylor Cooper:

being blind. I know that splice do well by now and then. Um,

Saylor Cooper:

when I first got here, I was walking with a cane now I'm, I'm

Saylor Cooper:

on my own.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I mean, some of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the things we've done together. I have been so amazed watching

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you, you know, we went on a boat trip, and you were just happily

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like climbing onto the bow climbing off the boat into a big

Julie Ann Salisbury:

thingy to get to the beach and jumping off the boat to go

Julie Ann Salisbury:

snorkeling and then jumping off the boat to go on the beach.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

It's like everywhere that we've been you've just been like this

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Nothing has stopped you all the other

Saylor Cooper:

you don't you're not wondering snorkeling was

Saylor Cooper:

murky? Yes, it was. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, the beach was much

Saylor Cooper:

better. Because you see, I also live in Cancun too. And the

Saylor Cooper:

beach you it's not the same. The sand is like more thick. It's

Saylor Cooper:

more like a darker color. You know?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah. Well, what you've been on two

Julie Ann Salisbury:

different beaches. So when you went on the first Beach, that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

was more a sort of darker beach. But the beach were on yesterday,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

after the boat ride was more of a fine, kind of white sand

Julie Ann Salisbury:

beach. But you were really enjoying being in the surf?

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, it's because of course, I grew up on

Saylor Cooper:

the ocean, you know.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

And the other thing we did together with

Julie Ann Salisbury:

South Sudan, so

Saylor Cooper:

Oh, I got a little tipsy. Yeah, I was happy.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. Yeah,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

he was very happy. And we were actually

Julie Ann Salisbury:

salsa dancing together. So it was doing a human doing an

Julie Ann Salisbury:

amazing job.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, it's it's fun. But it's been a fun trip.

Saylor Cooper:

And I look forward to many, many, many more. And then, you

Saylor Cooper:

know, Ty, was we should host a trip of our own somewhere.

Saylor Cooper:

Maybe? My place down in Mexico? Who knows? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And

Saylor Cooper:

so yeah, let's go. Let's go back to storage. So after you have

Saylor Cooper:

the operations, what challenges lie ahead?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, I think I've, I've kind of gone

Julie Ann Salisbury:

through life, not letting it stop me. So I, I went sailing

Julie Ann Salisbury:

around the world. So that was kind of interesting, because I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

left England and got onto a boat. And then I spent four

Julie Ann Salisbury:

years in Africa and Asia, living on a boat. Wow. But you know,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

not letting my any of my pain or my back problems stop me from

Julie Ann Salisbury:

doing anything. And then when, eventually I got to Canada,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

after like four years in Africa, and Asia, and I started my I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

wrote my book, my story. And then I started my publishing

Julie Ann Salisbury:

company. And about four years into my publishing company,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

where things were starting to get really successful and good.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I discovered that I was dyslexic. And this is I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

discovered this through somebody who I was working with from

Julie Ann Salisbury:

dyslexia, Canada. And she, she was watching me do some mind

Julie Ann Salisbury:

mapping, how I help people to write books. And she looked at

Julie Ann Salisbury:

me and said, Julie, do you realize you're dyslexic? And and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I said, Sue, I don't think that can be right. That can't be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

true. And imagine how bad it would be for business. I told

Julie Ann Salisbury:

everybody, I was a disliked Wow, publisher.

Saylor Cooper:

So you were dyslexic when you didn't even

Saylor Cooper:

know it? Because a lot of times, people can be dyslexic people

Saylor Cooper:

can have something that they've had all their life. They've just

Saylor Cooper:

never known it like I've heard and in certain instances of

Saylor Cooper:

autism, yes. You know, I had I have one posted on the podcast,

Saylor Cooper:

who was on the autism spectrum. He just didn't know it until he

Saylor Cooper:

was like in his late 40s.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think what happens is

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you actually adapt. I mean, I think that's what happens with

Julie Ann Salisbury:

anything that's, you know, we're, we're functioning in a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

different way. So I think, you know, I've always had to adapt

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the way I, you know, particularly read, write, and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

for me, numbers and analytical things. And I never realized

Julie Ann Salisbury:

when I was at school, and other kind of thought, well, I don't

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know why I'm so much slower than everybody else, you know, all my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

friends could get A's and B's. And I was struggling to get Ds

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and E's. And I never knew why I was just that, oh, maybe I'm

Julie Ann Salisbury:

stupid, or, you know, there's something different about me. So

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I think as I went through life, I just found different ways to

Julie Ann Salisbury:

adapt. And, you know, for reading, particularly, I read

Julie Ann Salisbury:

very slow. Now, I think, as a book publisher, that's probably

Julie Ann Salisbury:

a good thing to do. Because I take my time. I don't actually

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you know, kind of skip over pages or split read, like a lot

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of people do. I actually spend a lot of time on every word, every

Julie Ann Salisbury:

sentence, every page the stories, so I look at that as an

Julie Ann Salisbury:

advantage and disadvantage, and I certainly know when when I was

Julie Ann Salisbury:

operating my publishing company in Vancouver, I would read some

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of the emails that my staff was sending out. And I would say, oh

Julie Ann Salisbury:

my god, there's like three spelling mistakes in this email.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

You can't do that, representing a book publisher. And it's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

because they work so fast. And so many people do work fast.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

They kind of like make mistakes and don't check their work. But

Julie Ann Salisbury:

for me, I, I've always done that it's a matter of course that I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

write an email and then I check my email, then I check it again,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

before I press send. So I think you know, it means I've adapted

Julie Ann Salisbury:

without even realizing that's how, you know, that's how I live

Julie Ann Salisbury:

my life. I just always checked everything. I always was slow at

Julie Ann Salisbury:

things, but I never line up. let that stop me. I just decided

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that was me being accurate, more accurate than maybe other people

Julie Ann Salisbury:

were?

Saylor Cooper:

Well, now will you officially diagnosed with

Saylor Cooper:

dyslexia? Did you diagnose yourself?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, um, sue this. She ran. Dyslexia,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Canada. So it was her that she gave me a little mind's eye test

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that she uses on people. The telltale sign was that she told

Julie Ann Salisbury:

me dyslexia runs in families. So she asked me if my mom and dad

Julie Ann Salisbury:

or anybody my family was dyslexic. And I said no. And she

Julie Ann Salisbury:

said, Well, I think you should maybe check. You know, what can

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you bring your parents and ask them? So I called my mom and,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and she said, Oh, my God, your dad has secrets, his whole life.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

When I married him, he couldn't read or write. And he didn't

Julie Ann Salisbury:

want us children to know that. Wow. And so we kept it as a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

secret. And yeah, then I then I spoke to my dad, and he told me

Julie Ann Salisbury:

our hidden struggling through life. Because he was really

Julie Ann Salisbury:

badly bullied in school, because they didn't know then what

Julie Ann Salisbury:

dyslexia was. And so he was, he was had to wear a dunce hat and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

stand in the corner. The teachers would call him lazy,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and you know, and so, you know, he had a, he had a really tough

Julie Ann Salisbury:

life, and he didn't want us children to have that same

Julie Ann Salisbury:

experience. And so he'd bought it was just to keep us, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know, in the blind, and never tell us that dyslexia was in the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

family. And so

Saylor Cooper:

it's genetic, then now, does dyslexia? Is it

Saylor Cooper:

just this just have to deal with leading writing? Was it spatial

Saylor Cooper:

concepts overall?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, I actually it's not a disability,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and it is a disability, I call it a teaching disability as

Julie Ann Salisbury:

opposed to a learning disability. I actually did a TED

Julie Ann Salisbury:

talk on the topic, called the gift of dyslexia. And, you know,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

just like any, any of anything that's out of the ordinary or

Julie Ann Salisbury:

not quite, you know, normal, if you like, there's, there's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

always a different way to look at that. And dyslexia is your

Julie Ann Salisbury:

mind works a different way. So yeah, our we have got big, right

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and creative brains, but our left brains, it's kind of a bit

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like the autistic spectrum, actually, the left brain is

Julie Ann Salisbury:

smaller than the right brain. And so we tend to struggle with

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the kind of analytical type of things. And but the right brain

Julie Ann Salisbury:

is so big and creative. What actually happens is we look, we

Julie Ann Salisbury:

think in pictures, and we actually think a lot faster than

Julie Ann Salisbury:

we can process. Oh, right. So in other words, what you're writing

Julie Ann Salisbury:

or you're typing, you fall over your words, because you're

Julie Ann Salisbury:

actually thinking faster, and your fingers can type.

Saylor Cooper:

No logical condition.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, I would, I would say so. But I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

think, you know, some of the most brilliant minds like Albert

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Einstein was dyslexic. He couldn't read or write until he

Julie Ann Salisbury:

was nine years old. And Steve Jobs was dyslexic. Wow. Um, most

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of the Richard Branson is dyslexic.

Saylor Cooper:

So there's gifts with dyslexia. There's a lot

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of gifts with dyslexia, because it's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

mostly to do with problem solving. So basically, you look

Julie Ann Salisbury:

at any situation and you're able to find different solutions are

Julie Ann Salisbury:

outside of the box. So that's why when you think about some of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

those entrepreneurs, they're very creative and innovative. So

Julie Ann Salisbury:

people like Steve Jobs and Albert Einstein, we don't, don't

Julie Ann Salisbury:

look at things the same way as anybody else looks.

Saylor Cooper:

So they're not dyslexic people are not like, so

Saylor Cooper:

analytical, they just get down to it.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yes. And we don't let anything stop us. So I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

mean, this place is a good example. You know, this is not

Julie Ann Salisbury:

what you would consider to be a rich, traditional retreat

Julie Ann Salisbury:

center, right? A traditional retreat center is, you know, a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

villa on the beach or a villa in the jungle, you know, it's got a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

bunch of bedrooms, and some kind of space where you can meet.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

This is a 10 apartment building on five floors. So you wouldn't

Julie Ann Salisbury:

immediately come into this building and go, Oh, look,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

there's my retreat center. Because I look at things with a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

lot of creativity and imagination. I walk into the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

building, and immediately I'm like, Oh, wow, look at that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

apartment, it could become podcast studios. Yeah. And that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

space can be a co workspace, etc, and the event space on the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

rooftop, that's going to be great for conferences. And this

Julie Ann Salisbury:

room, if it takes down this window, I can put a four metre

Julie Ann Salisbury:

boardroom table there. So it's like, we look outside of the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

box, and we look outside the normal. And so therefore, we're

Julie Ann Salisbury:

able to creatively look at ways to do things. And there's no

Julie Ann Salisbury:

such thing as I can't,

Saylor Cooper:

right. So I see what it is, you think outside

Saylor Cooper:

the box, you just don't analyze in detail. And also when it

Saylor Cooper:

comes to reading and writing. That's where you have had

Saylor Cooper:

difficulties where you get you have what's called these

Saylor Cooper:

reversal regulars, I guess?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, yeah, I mean, it doesn't always

Julie Ann Salisbury:

process. That way. It's just that you're really falling over

Julie Ann Salisbury:

letters. And you sometimes fall over numbers as well, because

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you're, you're basically you're processing your minds processing

Julie Ann Salisbury:

is going to the end result really fast. So if you're, if

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you're like brainstorming, for example, with a dyslexic person

Julie Ann Salisbury:

or somebody on the autistic spectrum, you can move through

Julie Ann Salisbury:

ideas really, really fast and get to the end goal really,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

really fast. Whereas if you're if I'm masterminding with

Julie Ann Salisbury:

somebody who's not dyslexic or not on the spectrum, they'll be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like, I don't understand you. What are you saying? Well, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

can't do that. Yeah, you know, because they're a can't process

Julie Ann Salisbury:

as fast as you can. So it's like you can, you can move through

Julie Ann Salisbury:

ideas really, really fast. Because you're both processing

Julie Ann Salisbury:

at a high speed of creativity, as opposed to analytical people

Julie Ann Salisbury:

hold back, they're like, Well, hang on a minute, let me just do

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the figures of that, or hang on a minute, let me just figure out

Julie Ann Salisbury:

why, you know, you can't do this, this reason or that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

reason, so they actually slow things down. Because they have

Julie Ann Salisbury:

to slow it down to make everything logical. And in, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know, they have to analyze everything. Whereas with your

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you have all this creativity, you just just like, run ahead at

Julie Ann Salisbury:

full speed. Right? Because it's like, you can create anything

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like we all courageous. Yes, we all which creators, so you know,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

people that are have this kind of gift. I say that people are

Julie Ann Salisbury:

going to change the world, because, you know, we're able to

Julie Ann Salisbury:

think outside the box and bring innovation. People who are

Julie Ann Salisbury:

analytical, they can't even they can't think like that they

Julie Ann Salisbury:

can't. Many people I showed this building before I started to

Julie Ann Salisbury:

turn it into a retreat center. Just don't even understand my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

concept. Like it's an apartment building. How can you turn an

Julie Ann Salisbury:

apartment building into a retreat center?

Saylor Cooper:

Wow. You're very smart, Julie Ann Yeah, yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. You're very smart. Yeah. And so. Wow. So how long ago was

Saylor Cooper:

it when you found that you were dyslexic? Like 10 years ago?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah. Yeah, it would have been about 10

Julie Ann Salisbury:

years. Wow, probably not even. That's actually I did my TED

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Talk in 2014. So my did my TED Talk, not long after I was

Julie Ann Salisbury:

diagnosed, so maybe six months, so probably around 2013. And I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

did my TED Talk in 2014. And that's now had over 100,000

Julie Ann Salisbury:

hits.

Saylor Cooper:

Wow. And of course, when you were diagnosed,

Saylor Cooper:

you didn't feel ashamed when you've been because that's what

Saylor Cooper:

we That's the message we need to get out to people. Right title,

Saylor Cooper:

a diagnosis. Exactly. It's the end. You know, it's, it's about

Saylor Cooper:

understanding yourself and your framework, right.

Tyler Evans:

Absolutely. You know, I actually feel that

Tyler Evans:

disabilities aren't really like, they may be inconvenient in some

Tyler Evans:

way, but they're really special. You know what I mean? Like

Tyler Evans:

autism. There are people who are autistic, you wouldn't even know

Tyler Evans:

it. We were talking to someone. What was yesterday or the day

Tyler Evans:

before or whatever was happening? This weekend? Yeah.

Tyler Evans:

The Saturday. Yeah. And he was he was autistic. And you

Tyler Evans:

wouldn't know it by talking to him.

Saylor Cooper:

I don't know you would know it. Some people you

Saylor Cooper:

can tell

Tyler Evans:

it Yes, I am you can others you can't. I honestly

Tyler Evans:

think that, you know, I think autism, like, for those who are,

Tyler Evans:

like, like that are really, really high spectrum. Why should

Tyler Evans:

they even be diagnosed as autistic? I mean, that's high

Tyler Evans:

functioning, it's like high, like everything where you would

Tyler Evans:

know it, but actually interacting with them or

Tyler Evans:

anything. Yeah, that's just what I think. But everyone else, I

Tyler Evans:

think the artists on the autism should remain that lifestyle.

Tyler Evans:

I'm not the doctors, psychiatrists, whatever, they do

Tyler Evans:

their job. But yeah, you know, maybe it's time to re reassess

Tyler Evans:

in the future, you know, to rethink what is really autism,

Tyler Evans:

because of a tough functioning, and everyone is normal, and they

Tyler Evans:

live a normal life, even without medicine, then maybe it's just

Tyler Evans:

not out to his autism, maybe it's more or less kind of like

Tyler Evans:

ADHD, where we sometimes just need some feedback. Once we get

Tyler Evans:

it, boom, we're able to just thrive. Yeah. I think

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that just functioning in the world in a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

different way. And actually understanding what your gifts

Julie Ann Salisbury:

are,

Saylor Cooper:

I can Yes, agreeable? Totally. Right. You

Saylor Cooper:

got to know yourself. Well understand what your gifts are.

Saylor Cooper:

I mean, you may have weaknesses, but you have strengths, you

Saylor Cooper:

know?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, exactly. And that you can then

Julie Ann Salisbury:

just, you can adapt the way you need to. So like, I've got my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

operations manager in my business, I just call on my left

Julie Ann Salisbury:

brain, because she does all the left brain stuff that I struggle

Julie Ann Salisbury:

with, that allows me to really be as creative as I have a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

capacity to be creative, and I have a huge capacity to be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

creative.

Saylor Cooper:

Remind me, I learned this in psychology, your

Saylor Cooper:

left brain is decision making, or your right brain is

Julie Ann Salisbury:

it's not so much about decision making. It's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I guess, the decision making process. Yeah. So the left brain

Julie Ann Salisbury:

is more analytical analytical. Yeah. So you tend to like just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

really want to analyze everything and to, you know,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

like, make it logical. Whereas the right brain is more about

Julie Ann Salisbury:

creativity. And if you don't have the logical brain getting

Julie Ann Salisbury:

in the way, is nothing for stop you. Yeah, well, why can't I

Saylor Cooper:

do that? Exactly.

Tyler Evans:

Right, I actually learned in psychology is the

Tyler Evans:

left hemisphere and right hemisphere. Actually, the left

Tyler Evans:

hemisphere controls the right side of the body. And the right

Tyler Evans:

hemisphere controls the left side. That yeah, it's very

Tyler Evans:

interesting. That's why a lot of people who suffer say strokes on

Tyler Evans:

the left side, it affects the right side as pretty crazy. And

Tyler Evans:

also there's the frontal lobe, the exhibit a low but the

Tyler Evans:

parallel lobe and all these, you know, these different lobes that

Tyler Evans:

I learned in psychology, particularly on the central

Tyler Evans:

nervous system chapter and the neurons chapter. Yeah, it was

Tyler Evans:

pretty complex. But But yeah, so. So yeah, I was gonna ask,

Tyler Evans:

Julie Ann were you born and raised in Canada? No. In

Tyler Evans:

England, and England? Yeah. You sound like you have an English

Tyler Evans:

accent? Yeah, I do. Cool. Awesome.

Saylor Cooper:

So how long? How long has it been since you have

Saylor Cooper:

lived in England for time? Oh, my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

goodness. It's been. Well, I was 2000. So

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I was 2022 years. 22 years. 24 years? Yeah,

Saylor Cooper:

like 22 years. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah. 22. But yeah. So you currently live in Puerto

Tyler Evans:

Vallarta?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I live in Puerto Vallarta? Yes, in Mexico.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I've been here for four years. And I was actually the fiancee

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of a Mexican salsa teacher. And that's while I started to learn

Julie Ann Salisbury:

to Salsa dance. I never thought I could do Salsa dance, or

Julie Ann Salisbury:

because of my back. And he taught me that yes, I need I can

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Salsa dance. And I think I got stronger and stronger as I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

learned to dance. And you know, when I first started dancing, I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

could probably only dance the AB one song two songs. Then I just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

started to increase that slightly. And then I discovered

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that you know, like, after, like two years like it like dance for

Julie Ann Salisbury:

three hours solid. So I just, you know, got stronger and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

stronger. And, and just really enjoyed dancing for the sake of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

dancing. And but unfortunately he died of COVID last August. Oh

Julie Ann Salisbury:

no. And that was one of my biggest obstacles I've ever

Julie Ann Salisbury:

overcome. because he was a love of my life, and this dream of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the retreat center was our dream. Because we were going to,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I was going to be doing writing and publishing retreats, and he

Julie Ann Salisbury:

was going to be doing salsa dancing was retreats. So this

Julie Ann Salisbury:

was our dream to create this and CO create it together. And so

Julie Ann Salisbury:

when he passed away last August, I spent, you know, quite a few

Julie Ann Salisbury:

months in very heavy grief. And, and then I found a way that we

Julie Ann Salisbury:

could continue working together with him on the other side. And

Julie Ann Salisbury:

now I feel like we have co created this retreats and wow,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

I mean, there's, there's some good that comes out

Saylor Cooper:

of it, but I'm angry at COVID It's destructive and damaging

Saylor Cooper:

how many people it's damage to the world?

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, I mean, I'm angry. I'm not. I mean, I am

Tyler Evans:

angry at what COVID is doing. But I'm mostly angry at what

Tyler Evans:

China did. You know, to cover up the, you know, the lab, like,

Tyler Evans:

you know, there was a lab like, boom, that didn't notify the

Tyler Evans:

world in time. Boom, that happened. The pandemic happened.

Tyler Evans:

So yeah,

Saylor Cooper:

yeah. I'm glad it's finally ending. And we'll

Saylor Cooper:

hear Yep.

Tyler Evans:

Yep. Well, it seems as though the variants now are

Tyler Evans:

getting less and less destructive. I mean, yes, people

Tyler Evans:

are still getting sick to the point. But it's getting less and

Tyler Evans:

less disruptive compared to delta. Delta was the worst last

Tyler Evans:

year. And then it was original. But then Omicron, the first one,

Tyler Evans:

and then the second Omicron. Slowly and slowly, it's getting

Tyler Evans:

less and less destructive, which is a good thing. There are still

Tyler Evans:

people done, of course, but yeah, yeah, but we're getting

Tyler Evans:

through it. Yeah, Liana. And it's really remarkable that

Tyler Evans:

you've overcome all these obstacles, Julie Ann that you,

Tyler Evans:

despite your scoliosis, you managed to rise to the top like,

Tyler Evans:

kind of like me and Sailor are hoping to do in the future.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, and that's why we hear that quite a lot.

Saylor Cooper:

Exactly. And I'm meeting with Michelle, and Blaydon. Kevin

Saylor Cooper:

Scott. Oh, when the more zoom, we're gonna catch up on this

Saylor Cooper:

business plan. It's gonna be

Tyler Evans:

Well, I think, Kevin, I think it was a Kevin

Tyler Evans:

that said he couldn't make it. No, like, Blake. That's right.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

But yeah, but isn't Kimberly quo, fabulous.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

People here that are fabulous. I mean,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that's why I call this the house of influence. So. So the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

influence here is Spanish for a house of influence. And the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

whole idea is that we're gathering people that are

Julie Ann Salisbury:

influencers, and help other people to see the world in a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

different place, and a different

Saylor Cooper:

way. Yeah. And I'm wonderful.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

And you're one of them. That's what we

Julie Ann Salisbury:

need. We need people to share their stories. And to say, look,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you know, like, just because you've got some label at some

Julie Ann Salisbury:

description, you know, whether it's dyslexia or autism, or it's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

a physical disability, or you've overcome obstacles of death or

Julie Ann Salisbury:

disease, you know, we can overcome anything. Yes, we just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

makes us stronger.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. Yes,

Tyler Evans:

that's right. You got it.

Saylor Cooper:

You got it. And so well, what's your, what's

Saylor Cooper:

your book called, again, is out yet.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

My first book that I published was called

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Around the World in seven years, a life changing journey. That

Julie Ann Salisbury:

was my story of leaving England and traveling around the world.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

And since then, I've done a lot of collaborative books. So now

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I'm focusing on helping people to share their stories with

Julie Ann Salisbury:

multiple authors in one book. So for example, I'm doing a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

collaborative book with Michelle, we're going to be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

talking about that tomorrow. You don't know about that yet. But

Julie Ann Salisbury:

we're gonna be talking about that tomorrow about doing a book

Julie Ann Salisbury:

about how podcasting has changed your life. And so

Saylor Cooper:

you like me out because Tyler states natives to

Saylor Cooper:

Julian what we're doing.

Tyler Evans:

So we're basically the purpose of this podcast is

Tyler Evans:

to inspire other people who've overcome challenges in life,

Tyler Evans:

whether it be big, whether it be large or small. It will guide

Tyler Evans:

that's how we do it. That's ultimately what

Saylor Cooper:

we do. Are we Are we doing? Well, we've gotten the

Saylor Cooper:

foot, say it.

Tyler Evans:

We're also writing a memoir, too. It's been a long

Tyler Evans:

time since we've, since we've worked on it. It certainly is

Tyler Evans:

for me. But he and I are running it together now. I kind of write

Tyler Evans:

my stuff. But he also writes to us as well.

Saylor Cooper:

And we're gonna combine it all. Yeah.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, we don't even have features some of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the people that have overcome challenges that you've had on

Julie Ann Salisbury:

your podcast.

Saylor Cooper:

Maybe you can be in there too. Yeah,

Tyler Evans:

absolutely. Julie Ann. Absolutely. It's just

Tyler Evans:

amazing how you come from just this diverse background like,

Tyler Evans:

you know, you're from London. And then now look at you or

Tyler Evans:

England. Might have been London. I don't know. But now you're in

Tyler Evans:

Mexico. Yeah. Which is not far from America. And who knows?

Tyler Evans:

Maybe, maybe one day you might just send him into America. I

Tyler Evans:

don't know. You? Well, technically, in many

Julie Ann Salisbury:

countries in the world. But Mexico is my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

favorite. The people here are amazing. puts my otter is very

Julie Ann Salisbury:

warm and friendly. Climate is beautiful. We have the mountains

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and the ocean. And I just yeah, I'm in love with sports by arts

Julie Ann Salisbury:

or I feel like this is my home.

Tyler Evans:

Wow. And well, you know, my favorite food of all is

Tyler Evans:

Mexican. Yeah, and I'm not even Mexican. And my favorite of all

Tyler Evans:

our burritos. burritos are my favorite.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Well, we did. We've had Okay, for

Julie Ann Salisbury:

everybody. I know Mexican family. Yeah. My my Mexican

Julie Ann Salisbury:

sisters. And Suzy and Rachel. Great. Yeah, Mata, three

Julie Ann Salisbury:

sisters. They've been cooking our meals every day. Yes. We've

Julie Ann Salisbury:

been getting to taste the real authentic Mexican food. Oh,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

yeah. It's pretty special.

Saylor Cooper:

Right? Yeah. Is it Thai with a good trip?

Unknown:

Oh my god. Tyler. Yes.

Saylor Cooper:

I I tried to talk him into coming with me. Like

Saylor Cooper:

you said, now.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

You don't know what you've missed.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, sorry. I had other plans. So. So.

Saylor Cooper:

So do you have anything else to share about

Saylor Cooper:

your life journey? If not otherwise, your title, of

Saylor Cooper:

course, you can ask her questions. And of course, we'll

Saylor Cooper:

do our customary wrap up. So you've got the floor.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Okay. Okay. No, I think I just want to let

Julie Ann Salisbury:

people know that. You know, you can do anything in your life.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

You can overcome any obstacles, you can overcome any

Julie Ann Salisbury:

disabilities or any labels. I think all you have to do is just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

believe in yourself and believe that anything is possible. And

Julie Ann Salisbury:

just believe in the magic and believe in your dreams. And you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

can do it.

Saylor Cooper:

That's right. Well, Julian, I agree. And don't

Saylor Cooper:

let the labels to find you. Which is don't let the labels

Saylor Cooper:

define. Yeah. Yeah, cuz me and Tyler. Joy. We

Tyler Evans:

Yes, we are. And yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. Eight years ago in college, like gravity

Saylor Cooper:

school never matter. We, we say the same things.

Tyler Evans:

Almost almost the same things. It's amazing. Yeah.

Tyler Evans:

But yeah. So with that. We wanted to ask our customers.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, if there's anything that you can share with those who may

Tyler Evans:

feel down tonight, or today, rather, what do you think it'd

Tyler Evans:

be like if they feel like discouraged?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I think just know that you are a very

Julie Ann Salisbury:

special person, that you have gifts, and you know what your

Julie Ann Salisbury:

gifts are. Some people are in denial of their gifts, because

Julie Ann Salisbury:

maybe they're a little bit outside of the box. If you just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

think about the thing that you love to do, the thing that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

lights you are thing that gives you a big smile on your face.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

That's your gift. And you just need to embrace your gift and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

follow your dreams. And you will do what you're supposed to be

Julie Ann Salisbury:

doing in this world. And it might not be the normal course

Julie Ann Salisbury:

of action or the normal path might be that you're an artist

Julie Ann Salisbury:

or a poet or writer, or a musician or a dancer, or a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

podcast. Pose post. Yeah, it's probably outside the box. So all

Julie Ann Salisbury:

you have to do is embrace that and embrace your gift and just

Julie Ann Salisbury:

fall Are your dreams? Well, I can tell you.

Saylor Cooper:

Exactly. Yeah, it's you that as well said, and,

Saylor Cooper:

you know, I want to add to that you have to try to when people

Saylor Cooper:

have when people are different, and they have certain traits or

Saylor Cooper:

like quirky, others may not understand others have to be

Saylor Cooper:

more compassionate and understanding. Don't you agree?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, you need to be more

Julie Ann Salisbury:

compassionate, and to look at people for who they are not what

Julie Ann Salisbury:

they look like, how much money they have, or what they're

Julie Ann Salisbury:

wearing. You know, it's like, one of the reasons I love water

Julie Ann Salisbury:

by IATA is because it's a very accepting place, you can walk

Julie Ann Salisbury:

down the street, and you can see, you know, six foot diva

Julie Ann Salisbury:

wearing a pink miniskirt with a beard and mustache, and nobody's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

going to even turn their head and think that that's weird or

Julie Ann Salisbury:

unusual. It's like, you know, every everybody accepts

Julie Ann Salisbury:

everybody here. And it's a very free place from that

Julie Ann Salisbury:

perspective, because there's not any judgment. There's, there's

Julie Ann Salisbury:

no judgment of disabilities, there's no judgment of any

Julie Ann Salisbury:

anyway, color, sex preferences. It's just no judgment.

Saylor Cooper:

You've indicated before, right. And, yeah, would

Saylor Cooper:

you say Cancun the same as you in that, in that in that way? Or

Saylor Cooper:

not? Quite?

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I don't think so. Because I think what

Julie Ann Salisbury:

about just pretty special? It it's, it's kind of known as the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

gay capital of the world. And I think that as a sort of

Julie Ann Salisbury:

foundation has made people more accepting and with less judgment

Julie Ann Salisbury:

and more compassion. And so I think that is a pieces means

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that anybody else that's here, that's outside the box is also

Julie Ann Salisbury:

completely accepted without any judgment. And I don't honestly

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know any other place in the world like that. I don't.

Saylor Cooper:

Wow, okay. Cancun is it's I guess it's less except

Saylor Cooper:

accepting light. Or

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I just think Pashtoon is probably a

Julie Ann Salisbury:

little bit more westernized.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. You know, more blogging, you know? Yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, this is more family orientated. So

Julie Ann Salisbury:

there's a lot more love here and a lot more compassion, because

Julie Ann Salisbury:

family is number one. And, you know, that's not those, those

Julie Ann Salisbury:

kind of standards go through to everything. So I mean, I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

remember with my fiancee, I got ill. And I woke up in the

Julie Ann Salisbury:

morning, and I was feeling very sick. And I said, Oh, no, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

got to go to work. And he's like, he just looked at me and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

said, That's ridiculous. I, of course, I'm not going to work.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

You're ill. I'm going to stay here and look after you. And he

Julie Ann Salisbury:

didn't end up going to work for a week. And it was completely

Julie Ann Salisbury:

acceptable that his priority would be with his family. Yeah,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

not his work. Whereas in Western culture, you know, that's not

Julie Ann Salisbury:

the case. If you said, Oh, I can't come to work because my

Julie Ann Salisbury:

wife sick or my mom's sick or, or my child said, you know, your

Julie Ann Salisbury:

workplace or just says, Well, you know, get here, your work is

Julie Ann Salisbury:

more important,

Saylor Cooper:

or else you're fine. Exactly. Because in

Saylor Cooper:

America, that happens quite a bit. Yeah. I mean, oh, yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

Especially in the US, like they do have, they do have sick

Saylor Cooper:

leave, they have what's called FMLA Family Medical Leave Act

Saylor Cooper:

and stuff. But if it was a sudden emergency, not so much,

Saylor Cooper:

you know?

Tyler Evans:

Well, you know,

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I think and, you know, that's what I

Julie Ann Salisbury:

that's how it comes through to no judgment and more freedom is

Julie Ann Salisbury:

because there's more love than this more compassion. Yeah.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Right. So

Tyler Evans:

you know, you're going you're saying earlier

Tyler Evans:

about, embrace some embrace what makes you smile. Why and tell

Tyler Evans:

you what really made me smile. Oh, was my mom. Whenever she was

Tyler Evans:

around when she was alive? She just, I can't stop bragging

Tyler Evans:

about her. I can't.

Saylor Cooper:

Because yeah, yesterday, actually two years

Saylor Cooper:

ago, she passed away.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, she did. She had a long battle with breast

Tyler Evans:

cancer. And a long you know, long battle with pneumonia. But

Tyler Evans:

you know what? She's with Christ now, because she believed in

Tyler Evans:

what he did on the cross. Dad knows again, that was You'd

Tyler Evans:

think for her, and she, she literally just changed my life

Tyler Evans:

forever. Yeah, the fact that she fought for me as a baby. She

Tyler Evans:

fought for me as an as a kid. And then ultimately, whenever I

Tyler Evans:

became an adult, she fought for herself to fight cancer, to

Tyler Evans:

fight breast cancer. And she was still there for me. It was just

Tyler Evans:

amazing. She's She's so that's what makes me smile from heaven

Julie Ann Salisbury:

on you. Right?

Tyler Evans:

Yes. Well, me and my friends say that we're about

Tyler Evans:

to do show on her soon.

Saylor Cooper:

Yes, we'll get back. Honestly. I know a couple

Saylor Cooper:

of other people. Not everybody's leaving tomorrow. No candy. And

Saylor Cooper:

Kimberly de and Alicia, they're staying. I thought about I've

Saylor Cooper:

been doing my massage. And then thinking about maybe changing my

Saylor Cooper:

slight and never date and staying at least Wednesday. Yay.

Saylor Cooper:

I mean, how much what? Because he's staying here longer. And I

Saylor Cooper:

you know, Here's all

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I think Alicia is still here. I think

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I'm just gonna stay somewhere else. Yeah. But I think, you

Julie Ann Salisbury:

know, I think it'd be lovely to stay.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. I mean, I kind of thought about it,

Saylor Cooper:

because this is this is wonderful. I mean, I mean, I

Saylor Cooper:

will have to be back home Wednesday, for sure. For

Saylor Cooper:

Thanksgiving if I do. So. It's just a farm.

Tyler Evans:

I mean, I wouldn't worry about it.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Once you come here. You can never leave.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Like the Hotel California.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. Hotel. Kela. Yeah.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, I mean, I personally would just go ahead

Tyler Evans:

and leave tomorrow, just because you've already planned you've

Tyler Evans:

already made the reservation and then next time, make sure just

Tyler Evans:

do it. Yeah, I would think so. It's like me my Ryan came and

Tyler Evans:

saw you. When I came and saw you in October, I didn't want to

Tyler Evans:

leave. Yeah. I literally did not want to leave after like

Tyler Evans:

stepping back there and I've already I think PATA Palooza is

Tyler Evans:

coming up. Speaking of which, maybe you should join us on PATA

Tyler Evans:

Palooza and Jen Yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

You should join us Julie Ann

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Palooza Evan every time I've done for

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Todd.

Saylor Cooper:

Maybe you were there in October maybe I just

Saylor Cooper:

didn't. I just didn't know you weren't. I was that it was so

Saylor Cooper:

good to meet you. And again, Julian, thank you so much for

Saylor Cooper:

for for the hospitality here the suite. It's been incredible. I

Saylor Cooper:

mean, my only suggestion I have is to hopefully on the rooftop.

Saylor Cooper:

I know you're you're talking about it. Maybe y'all can put a

Saylor Cooper:

hot tub up. There.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

I am. You are. Oh, good. It's the next

Julie Ann Salisbury:

thing on the list. Actually. Yeah, the only reason I've not

Julie Ann Salisbury:

done it yet is because we have to have an architect come and

Julie Ann Salisbury:

check out the structural beams. The weights of a hotdog. So like

Saylor Cooper:

we buy it or just have it

Julie Ann Salisbury:

built? Well, I think I'm gonna get one

Julie Ann Salisbury:

built because I was speaking to somebody I was gonna go buy

Julie Ann Salisbury:

plastic one from Costco. Yeah. And I showed it to this guy. And

Julie Ann Salisbury:

he said, Oh, no, I can I can build you a wooden one.

Saylor Cooper:

Okay, um, I mean, I'm sure they're gonna have it

Saylor Cooper:

here again next year. I never haven't one February, which, I

Saylor Cooper:

mean, I probably won't come back to that. Because that's, that's

Saylor Cooper:

too soon. It's the same thing. But it's if anything, I'll come

Saylor Cooper:

back like next year when they have it again. And who knows?

Saylor Cooper:

Maybe you'll have it built.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Oh, yeah. Maybe you come back and bring

Julie Ann Salisbury:

your own people. Like don't retreat to them. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Yeah, I

Saylor Cooper:

should. Yeah. Bring my own people. Yes. Yes.

Saylor Cooper:

Without food you Yeah. Julie Ann thank you so much for being on

Saylor Cooper:

the hook without sight. Thank you.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, absolutely.

Saylor Cooper:

Well, stay blessed everybody.

Julie Ann Salisbury:

Thank you. Thanks.